| | #11 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada.
Posts: 2,421
| Dockable Clickmapping (PwnBoxer) or Clickbars (ISBoxer) are useful tools, but not optimal for healing... unless you run with the same group of people all the time, and never have new players in your group. With a Repeater Region, set it up once, and you can heal any group composition. No modifications for raid/battleground healing with twenty players who you've never grouped with before and never will again... Any of your toons can lead the party, or your healer can, or someone else; party member order is different for the leader than any of the others, therefore the only way targeting by party number would work (party1 (F2), party2 (F3), party3 (F4), party4 (F5)) is if none of your toons ever lead the group. (F2 or /target party1, points to the leader for everyone else, but on the leader points to a different toon.) The other way to get clickable buttons to heal, is by target name. But then if you join a pick-up-raid, or add a random player or two to your DPS team for a hard quest or dungeon run, you need to edit the /target name for multiple buttons per toon. A repeater region, needs no modifications and works out of the get go. |
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| | #12 |
| Member Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 66
| I'm using this specific setup in all my of my multiboxing setups. Except, I use Grid + Clique instead of Vuhdo - but it's the same thing. I'm not sure if you got this issue sorted out, but here's my HKN script that I use - edit it to suit your WoW window names obviously. A little note about using HKN to rename the windows, it doesn't always name them properly. Example: My healer, which is always account #2, could get named "wow5" even though it's second. So if you do rename the windows, make sure it's named properly in this config and remember to always reload script after modifying it. That's the only heads-up I got right now. Anyways, here's the script: Code: <HotKey RCtrl R>
<RenameWin "World of Warcraft" wow1>
<RenameWin "World of Warcraft" wow2>
<RenameWin "World of Warcraft" wow3>
<RenameWin "World of Warcraft" wow4>
<RenameWin "World of Warcraft" wow5>
<UseKeyAsModifier Oem102>
<Hotkey Oem102 LButton>
<SendWinM wow2>
<ClickMouse LButton>
<Hotkey Oem102 RButton>
<SendWinM wow2>
<ClickMouse RButton>
<Hotkey Oem102 MButton>
<SendWinM wow2>
<ClickMouse MButton>
<Hotkey Oem102 Button4>
<SendWinM wow2>
<ClickMouse Button4>
<Hotkey Oem102 Button5>
<SendWinM wow2>
<ClickMouse Button5>
Of course, if you want to use a modifier such as shift too, you can add lines such as this at the end of the script: Code: <HotKey Oem102 Shift LButton>
<SendWinM wow2>
<Key %Trigger%>
<ClickMouse LButton>
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| | #13 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada.
Posts: 2,421
| Thank you for posting your script. The mouse broadcasting, while a key is held is interesting. The equivalent in IS Boxer would be a two-step mapped key, that executes a step on press or release, with mouse broadcasting enabled on Step 1 and disabled on Step 2. The general idea of a Repeater Region, is to always have broadcasting on while the mouse is within the region but to disable it automatically when the mouse is moved away. Mouse Broadcasting with HKN That way, you move the mouse over the frame, click for the heal and pull it away. Can heal from any toon, without the need for macros, mapped keys, predefined clickbars/dockable clickmapping, etc. No modifications needed going from one-boxing with PUGs using dungeon finder, three-boxing with a couple friends, running your five-box team or going 5x healers in a 40-man battleground. |
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| | #14 |
| Member Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 66
| I'm not saying ISBoxer is bad in any way, I just haven't used it myself nor do I currently plan to - but since Pwnboxer is (currently) lacking this feature, HotKeyNet is a great way to replace the Repeater Region. It mimics your mouse to set windows, only those that you want it to obivously, while the key is held down. I have with this script gone from a 5-man group to a 40-man battleground and been able to continue healing without changing a single thing. HotKeyNet may be the "ghetto" way of doing it, but it sure gets the job done. Surely, if I knew of a way of it to "trigger" only while within a certain region, I would script it so - but as far as I know, that's a very tricky part thanks to the UI changing as more members join the group. I can imagine this being, sort of, an issue with the repeater region too - unless it's so advanced that it handles that itself. Of course, I'm going to look at it now thanks to you, see if it's possible to make it trigger within a certain x and y, and only then, so you don't have to hold the key down. The only downside would be, you would have to make sure to have 1 setup for 5-man, 1 for 10-man etc unless you modify the scale of Healbot, Grid, Vuhdo or whatever you may use so that the x and y are still the same even though the number of party members grow. Note: The best thing about it triggering only while holding the key down, is that if I wanted to I could easily off-heal on the tank (if I'm a paladin) by simply clicking without any keys held down. And key 1 mimics to the healer, noone else, key 2 mimics to say an off-healer etc. Meaning, if I had say 5 shamans, I could set 5 keys - when 1 is held down, it mimics the mouse to that shaman and noone else. I'm sure there is such a feature within the repeater region though. |
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| | #15 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada.
Posts: 2,421
| I posted the HKN info here, specifically for people to combine it with Pwnboxer. Quite a few had used it, in conjunction with Keyclone on the other site; basically half of the KC using people that wanted mouse broadcasting went with adding HKN the other half moved to IS Boxer. There's no reason it cannot be added to Pwnboxer or another software too. HKN is a very strong boxing option, if you're willing to learn the scripts a bit and/or tinker around a little. Not really a lot of people who use it, at least on this site; which makes the tech support a bit harder. I don't use it at all, so I'm not a lot of help in this regard. Repeater Region healing, has to be the best (most flexible, quickest reactions, least configuration once set up) method for healing as a boxer. Any feature one has, another is likely to develop at some point, or at least take a look at. I really hope it is one of the feature Tim is planning on including in Pwnboxer 3.0. The more products which push each other, the better off the boxing community is as a whole. |
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| | #16 |
| Member Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 66
| I agree completly. The ability to be able to heal yourself along with your party, raid or even battleground simply with the mouse is something that a keybinding and a macro never can beat. I agree with you when you say that hopefully Tim will add this feature to Pwnboxer 3.0, it's something that I think will do quite alot to the software itself - of course, along with all the other features already in it and being added to it. |
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| | #17 |
| Administrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA
Posts: 6,768
| Hey there, Can you try and describe this feature as you'd want it added to Pwnboxer, in a simple quick bulleted fashion? I ask because I've already built an awesome new mouse system that is being added to PB 3.0. I have a feeling it is exactly like what you are looking for (and then some)! Thanks |
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| | #18 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada.
Posts: 2,421
| I'll describe the Repeater Region, from IS Boxer. Something similar would be a good addition to Pwnboxer. - Hotkey to open the in-game GUI tool. - Drop down menu to select the target(s), who will receive the mouse activity. - Check box for KVM mode, if desired. - Add region button. - Drag the region (by the border) to where you want it, resizing by dragging the edges; the shaded interior portion (not the border) is the Repeater Region. - Click sync button, so all other clients have the same region in the same position. - Click save, either "auto" which automatically loads when this set is launched, or another name which can then be manually loaded and unloaded. - Press the in-game GUI hotkey, to close the GUI. |
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| | #19 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 252
| Did you guys get it to work ? I am using pwnboxer, hkn, grid, and healbot (vuhdo is way too cumbersome for me) and it is working really well for me. Let me know if you need me to elaborate. The trick to make the mouse click in the right spot on your slaves (if you're using pwnboxer) is to enable the UI scale in Video-->Advanced and make sure all clients have the same scale. Also a lot of those addons don't have exact x,y coordinates so grab the addon called ealign and work accordingly as you set up your repeater regions Having mboxed with both playstyles, all heals through macros, and all heals through repeater regions, I can tell you that a combo of both is the best playstyle for PVE (heroics specifically) I am in the process of shooting some of the cata heroics i cleared with my mixed 5-man team and will try to illustrate that in the videos Last edited by Janus; 03-14-2011 at 01:32 PM. |
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