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Old 02-02-2010, 01:05 PM   #1
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Default Performance issue after fast game switching

I am running 5 games on the following maching with the following settings

-Quad core 2.83 ghz with 8 gb of ram, and geforce 9800 GT overclocked video card, running on windows 7 65 bit

- My master's config is through pwnboxer and i have graphics set at high without restriction in the frame rate
- All my slaves' are set on low and restricted to 25 FPS

Whenever I fast game switch to a slave's screen and then go back to my master, I notice a significant performance drop. This does not happen until I use the fast game switch feature. Weird...

Any input ?
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:38 PM   #2
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This will depend on how you have your settings on each game really. Try setting all your guys to 45fps max, 15fps background, and setting slaves to LOW and main to MED graphics.

When you fast game switch it takes take a little surge in CPU to move your game windows around. Any other performance factor there is just going to be typical to WoW when it resizes graphics, accesses hard drive, interacts with gfx card, is subject to HD fragmentation, etc.
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:58 PM   #3
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Cool, I'll give it a try

Thanks
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:16 PM   #4
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Default Re: Performance issue after fast game switching

plz tim do not take this the wrong way really do not :P

anyway if your not a slower pc i allways found fast window mode would 1, crash wow, 2, take so long my group be dead before i load up the window i tryed it on my bro's i7 and its epic but after useing the 7days off isboxer its a really fast window changeing could u maybe rewire the code to work better on slower pc's??
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The thing that makes IS Boxer virtually instant swap speed, is that all windows are rendered at the size of the large window.

Which means, the PiP swaps are instant (as fast as you can press the swap buttons, anyway as each window is already rendered at the size of the main screen), the mouse broadcasting is as accurate as is possible, etc... If your system is half decent or is a lot more then you need for warcraft, IS Boxer won't strain your resources and certain aspects will far exceed other boxing options.

It also means, any other boxing software which renders each window at their displayed resolutions will run smoother, then those like IS Boxer. I've seen quite a few people on machines which are "marginal" for say 5-boxing... and have them report things are slower (more computer resources used) with IS Boxer.

Each software has advantages and disadvantages, when compared to other software. It might be a feature worth looking into, but there are trade offs as well. One of Pwnboxers big strengths is lower end systems can run it for several clients at once.

thanks well am trying as Isboxer as it have network support and keyclone is bugging out more and more and more and not been updated in a long time but i made 5 dk's as i got chars all over the place atm and i loved them in pvp when one died etc was really nice i love pwnboxer but i like this two av tryed gamecommaner pro (copyed tim layout??) and i was finding it seeming more to much its a bit overbord
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:17 PM   #6
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There is a very strategic reason why Pwnboxer does not render the small windows in full size and then resize them small: Performance

Because Pwnboxer renders them in the initial small size, your PC saves a tremendous amount of CPU power to keep it small, The difference, according to my PCs, is nearly 400% CPU power saved.

When it comes to making multiboxing work on slower PCs, this becomes an immense factor, absolutely immense.

Not everybody has a fast computer, and these type of features really open the door of multiboxing to more "normal" people with "normal" computers. Know what I mean? The whole goal behind Pwnboxer is to enable "normal" people to multibox games like WoW without a huge investment of time and energy.

For me, with a faster PC, my window swaps with Pwnboxer occur about 1/5 of a second, maybe even less. It is absolutely instant. But there would of course be some middle ground somewhere, where some PCs would benefit from small game windows and swap them, VS large game windows and swap them.

However, overall, the vast gain to be had here is to simply draw the window small because the CPU savings is absolutely immense. I'm not joking here at all, 400% faster WoW experience PER WoW window using the Pwnboxer window small sizes. For a lot of people, that saves them $1000+ in having to buy a new PC. Pwnboxer literally enables slower PCs the option of multiboxing which opens the doors of multiboxing to a LOT more people that normally couldn't afford it. To me, this is exactly what Pwnboxer is all about - helping more people be able to multibox.

I could always add a configuration option in Pwnboxer to render all games in large windows for those who have faster PCs and/or understand the performance impact.

Should I add it?
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It doesn't hurt to have the option.
Rendering at full size, will also drastically increase the accuracy of mouse broadcasting.

But the trade off is a lot more cpu resources used.
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I am running a slower computer an E2200 with 2 GB ram and an 8800GT. I dont swap lightly because it takes about 15 seconds to redraw. Soon I will upgrade to a 9400 quad and 8 GB Ram to run 5 accounts at once.
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I am running a slower computer an E2200 with 2 GB ram and an 8800GT. I dont swap lightly because it takes about 15 seconds to redraw. Soon I will upgrade to a 9400 quad and 8 GB Ram to run 5 accounts at once.
Wow that is certainly a umm.. a humble system How many do you multibox on it?
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