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Old 10-05-2011, 12:15 PM   #1
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Question Harddrive for Fraps footage

Hello,

I'm looking for a huge disk atm that will ONLY be for Fraps, so..
I've been looking at this one but I'm a bit worried because its a "green" disk, doesnt it usually mean they are slower?
Would it be able to record at 60FPS in WoW, Crysis, whatever games?

It has to be atleast 2TB.
Please give any ideas you may have

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Old 10-05-2011, 01:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: Harddrive for Fraps footage

Just my 2 cents but i'd go with the 2TB or 3TB seagate barracuda XT. i have 4 of the 2TB models in a 4 drive raid 5 array and they've been flawless and perform very well. 300MB/s+ read and write speeds with an LSI 9260 raid controller.

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda XT ST33000651AS 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

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Old 10-05-2011, 01:20 PM   #3
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Just my 2 cents but i'd go with the 2TB or 3TB seagate barracuda XT. i have 4 of the 2TB models in a 4 drive raid 5 array and they've been flawless and perform very well. 300MB/s+ read and write speeds with an LSI 9260 raid controller.

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda XT ST33000651AS 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

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Impressive benchmarks.
Now I just have to find someone who sells it in Sweden, and not be way to overpriced like they usually are.. Thanks for the tip however
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:53 PM   #4
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For once I have to disagree with Xartin on this one

My gaming system has 8 platter hard drives in it (more if you count SSDs), all seagate, all fast ones. 4 of them are Raptor 15k RPM ones, the other 4 are the XT ones.

My computer room is a FRIGGEN NUCLEAR FURNACE!

Get the Green drives, sacrifice a tiny amount of speed so you don't have to play games with 120*F temperatures

I can say this: I converted my RAID6+1 array QNAP 809 standalone raid server (it has 8 hard drives) from Seagate 7200rpm, to Segate 5900rpm (those green drives). The power consumption of my 8 drive RAID dropped about 40%, the heat issues completely went away, and the drives will probably last 2 years longer due to no more wear and tear.

Super Edit: Skip FRAPS, get a recorder that does on the fly Xvid encoding. Then do 20Mbps Xvid @ 1920x1080 @ 30fps. The quality is AWESOME and it is about 1/15th the size as a FRAPs video.

I use Camtasia Recorder w/Xvid and it rocks. You can see the quality on any of the Pwnboxer youtube channel recent videos. Really good. Those are actually 10Mbps not 20Mbps even.
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:55 PM   #5
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For once I have to disagree with Xartin on this one

My gaming system has 8 platter hard drives in it (more if you count SSDs), all seagate, all fast ones. 4 of them are Raptor 15k RPM ones, the other 4 are the XT ones.

My computer room is a FRIGGEN NUCLEAR FURNACE!

Get the Green drives, sacrifice a tiny amount of speed so you don't have to play games with 120*F temperatures

I can say this: I converted my RAID6+1 array QNAP 809 standalone raid server (it has 8 hard drives) from Seagate 7200rpm, to Segate 5900rpm (those green drives). The power consumption of my 8 drive RAID dropped about 40%, the heat issues completely went away, and the drives will probably last 2 years longer due to no more wear and tear.
Well.. the question is still, Will it blend? butno. Will be able to record at 60fps for games such as GTA IV on Max gfx etc?
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:00 PM   #6
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You shouldn't record 60fps actually, since Youtube won't show it at that FPS. 30fps will be waaaay more than fine.

30fps @ 20Mbps 1920x1080 is ridiculously beautiful quality. Considering almost all normal HDs do 90Mbps that should be fine.

You could do this: 2x whatever hard drives in RAID0 (stripe). Doubles the speed of writing to the drives and gives you twice the space. But if 1 drive fails you lose it all.

I personally would do this: 4x whatever drive in RAID10 (mirror + stripe). Data is written on 2 drives, and striped on 2 drives. Basically twice the speed + protection from single drive failure. Does require 4 drives though.

If you want to do it on the cheap, just get 1 drive and do Xvid @ 20Mbps and you'll be fine

When I did FRAPS by itself for a 1920x1080 @ 30fps (and fraps has huge fps bugs) it was like 220Mbps or so.

So yea, single drive, Xvid @ 20Mbps you'll be fine!
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You shouldn't record 60fps actually, since Youtube won't show it at that FPS. 30fps will be waaaay more than fine.

30fps @ 20Mbps 1920x1080 is ridiculously beautiful quality. Considering almost all normal HDs do 90Mbps that should be fine.

You could do this: 2x whatever hard drives in RAID0 (stripe). Doubles the speed of writing to the drives and gives you twice the space. But if 1 drive fails you lose it all.

I personally would do this: 4x whatever drive in RAID10 (mirror + stripe). Data is written on 2 drives, and striped on 2 drives. Basically twice the speed + protection from single drive failure. Does require 4 drives though.

If you want to do it on the cheap, just get 1 drive and do Xvid @ 20Mbps and you'll be fine

When I did FRAPS by itself for a 1920x1080 @ 30fps (and fraps has huge fps bugs) it was like 220Mbps or so.

So yea, single drive, Xvid @ 20Mbps you'll be fine!
Yeah I'm on a limited budget atm so I can't spend more then 150$ for a 2tb drive, so... It seems like I'll be getting the one I linked from the beginning.

Thanks for your inputs
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No prob! Also you could use Dvix as well, Xvid is essentially an open source clone of dvix.
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By the way, Tim, Dvix / Xvid, is it some type of codec / recording program?
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Its a codec, like a driver to run video. I suggest getting VLC Player too. Best to have all the areas covered.
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