Harddrive for Fraps footage

[Mataza]

Yeah I got VLC, I use it for movies but for Fraps footage, its horrible.. I use Home Machinima for that, won't lag.
But what I don't get with what Tim is saying, is there any type of Xvid / Divx recorder?

[Drarkan]

Ahh I see. You could use Xsplit I think you can do recording for that too. It can be used to stream with twitch.tv also but more to it I think.

[Drarkan]

Oh and I have been getting the WD Caviar green series of drives for years and I have not had a problem with efficiency or crashing. I had a 8 or 8 year old maxtor 200 gig go bonkers on me, but I think I can still write to the drive... Anyway, WD is reliable IMO

[Mataza]

Originally Posted by Drarkan

Ahh I see. You could use Xsplit I think you can do recording for that too. It can be used to stream with twitch.tv also but more to it I think.

Yeah I tried using XSplit to record my gameplay earlier, it was even worse then Fraps..
FPS went from 100-110 to a mere 5, just presing the "Record" button..

With Fraps it wasnt "THAT" bad, it went from 100-110 to like 15, with insane lagspikes..

Don't really know why this happens? I play on Medium settings in WoW with the following system:
i7 930 @ 2.8ghz (haven't bothered clocking)
12gb 1866mhz ram
285mB/s r/w SSD for WoW & other disk for recording material
ATi 5850 black gfx.
Imo its quite a good system, but I've been having serious issues recording gameplay on it and broadcasting has been strange.

When I start streaming it feels like I have "uneven framrate", it may show 30fps, but feels like 15, but its not visible on stream at all.
Hmm.. this post was a bit more then intended.... woops.

[Drarkan]

Hmm and the main feature the i7 has is the ability to produce high end operations such as rendering. However I only know so much so can't help out too much. I keep meaning to get fraps and record some GAEMZ

[Mataza]

Anyone else who has an i7 and has the same problem?
I've never tried to clock it so its all by default at 2.8ghz, which I THOUGHT would be enough to do some Fraps screening, but apparantly not..
Been looking into getting and i7 2600k but total different socket so need a new mobo.. which would set me back around 450€ so thats in a while

[xartin]

One of the main differences between DivX and Xvid is that DivX requires you to buy a licence to the tune of 2500.00 to legally commercially reproduce any video using DivX codec and welll xvid will just encourage you to use it because it benefits culture.

If your doing any commercial video production and want to save yourself being subject to a closed source company's private eula terms go xvid.

[xartin]

I have an i7 920 i've -never- needed to overclock and i can do fraps capture just fine. are you using a registered version of fraps or just a trial copy? It could be possible the fraps developer put some limitations in the program for not paying users. Not that i ever pay for it but then mine is always registered regardless

[xartin]

Originally Posted by Mataza

Yeah I got VLC, I use it for movies but for Fraps footage, its horrible.. I use Home Machinima for that, won't lag.
But what I don't get with what Tim is saying, is there any type of Xvid / Divx recorder?

If your using fraps to capture video there's generally a reason and it's often that your mastering your own videos with sony vegas from a "lossless" video format. note i said mastering not encoding since mastering in vegas produces superior results from non compressed encoded video sources.

Since encoding video with a codec is often for the purpose of reducing size which also strategically drops video frames to the target framerate. This is how codec video compression is achieved. With this in mind the higher your source framerate is can affect the overall results after rendering and encoding to your target framerate spec.

Mastering video using frapsed video as a video source is preferable since Fraps will cap your in game fps at 30.00 or whichever you set in fraps as your target framerate and the source for mastering will be lossless video. The best results are achieved from your mastered source offering as close a framerate as possible to your target framerate after rendering and encoding.

This has a very noticeable benefit in high quality video mastering since ntsc video is 29.97 fps, HD video is 23 fps. If your capturing video input at 120 fps and your dropping everything but 23fps your videos will look dark and noticeably poor if used as your video source for mastering videos

Here's a tutorial I highly recommend on mastering with sony vegas and encoding with staxrip in x264.

EnsidiaTV - fraps + Sony vegas Pro + x264 Staxrip Video mastering Tutorial - YouTube

You might note this is how Ensidia does all of their wow fan videos.

If you've never heard of Staxrip i've used staxrip to re-encode "backups" of my bluray movies and the results have been jaw dropping. Definitely top of the mark for open source video rendering tools.

VLC has a default preference to use it's own internal codec package to play videos over what you may have installed on your system and doesn't include the fraps video codec which would explain the lag playing uncompressed fraps videos in vlc.

If your after a really superb video player I'd recommend klite codec pack which defaults to media player classic with gpu rendering enabled. This will both use your gfx card whenever possible to render video as well as be able to use the fraps video codec.