Your thoughts on multiboxing softwares creating their own macros/UI/addons.

[Tim]

Hey guys,

Initially I had thought to put this in the software forum, but since this is really about interpretation of Blizzard rules and the implications that follow, I decided to put this in our General Discussions.

So here is the question: Would you want a multiboxing program to create add-ons/UI/macros in the actual game?

Firstly let me start off by saying this. It definitely is possible for your multiboxing program, be it Pwnboxer, Key Clone, Innerspace, whatever, to make creating macros and designing your UI on all your guys in a far, far easier way than doing it yourself, manually.

For example, imagine you wanted a Chain Lightning + use multiple buff/trinket click macro on all your shamans. If you could write this macro in a multiboxing program, and have that multiboxing program then create it on all your WoW's itself (by writing its own add-on/UI/macro and depositing it/editing the WoW game files).

So yes, it would be helpful if your MB program could create add-ons and manage them. Really helpful.

HOWEVER

Blizzard has stated it is against their TOS/EULA for a company to charge or otherwise make money from any game mod/addon/ui. If the multiboxing program created an add-on and edited it, this would be against Blizzard's policy. Do I believe that policy is enforceable? Well, that isn't the point.

The point is this: Myself personally, I do not want to touch anything with a 10 foot pole that Blizzard could take action against a user who is using it.

So for me, I think that a multiboxing program, if it created or modified any add-ons, macros, etc., could be considered by Blizzard as against their EULA/TOS and cause your account to be nuked.

But that is just my opinion, and since I'm obviously the owner of Pwnboxer, I've strictly decided to not give any of my users any risk by having Pwnboxer do this in any fashion at this time. I would much rather remove a nice feature to ensure EULA/TOS compliance. My vote is for safety.

But I really would like to hear it from you guys.

Would you want your multiboxing program, regardless of what you use, to perform an action that could potentially be actionable and cause your WoW account to be at risk, yet at the same time make multiboxing much easier? Or do you want to always keep on the safe route?

I'm really interested in what you all think on this, so please let the discussions, even a bit heated, ensue!

UPDATE:

The reason I ask this is because more than a few users of our community have asked me if I plan on adding this feature. There are a couple other multiboxing programs which currently do this now, and it shocks me.

Obviously this is just my opinion, and obviously I am biased since I own Pwnboxer, but I cannot help but be shocked that there are other multiboxing programs out there that, in my opinion, risk their user's account safety just to try and leg-up the competition to make another buck. But in the end, that is my opinion, and since Pwnboxer is for the community, I really want to hear all of your feedback.

[pinki104]

if this is deffo bannable then no becuase people that are new to multiboxing may not realise its against the rules and do it and then get banned

[LindlineOLD]

I don't know. If you're simply making adjustments to the WTF files while the game isn't running, then I don't have much of a problem with it. But if you're talking about the program actively making changes while the game is running, then that becomes a little more murky.

[Chamassa]

It depends on how u act on it tim
If u let the addon bit be open for everyone to download, put it on curse etc
Its not outside their Terms

Like, ur just making ur payed program USE an addon u wrote.

That is i think the only way to do it, make the addon have functions that pwnboxer uses
and make the addon free to use

[Sidrael]

Make it separate from the purchasable multiboxing software.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by Chamassa

It depends on how u act on it tim
If u let the addon bit be open for everyone to download, put it on curse etc
Its not outside their Terms

Like, ur just making ur payed program USE an addon u wrote.

That is i think the only way to do it, make the addon have functions that pwnboxer uses
and make the addon free to use

That isn't the type of addon I'm talking about. I'm talking about the MB software making the addon on-the-fly. So there is no real addon to make downloadable. Know what I mean?

Since the MB software actually makes the add-on/ui/macro stuff on-the-fly while the game is running, there really is no addon to be downloaded or distributed at all. It is simply something the commercial MB software creates.

So editing the config.WTF file, that is something that can be done by hand easily, and Blizzard even mentions it as part of their support resolution process in certain situations. But having a MB software write an addon/ui/macro on-the-fly to your game while it is running, well...

So the way I see it, that is a really, really risky thing to do. But maybe thats just my view, maybe I'm wrong and everybody else thinks that is ok. That is why I created this thread

[fogstah]

I agree with it being risky u know how blizzard can be with there rules..
Besides i dont really get the bigger picture behind it, would Pwnboxer (the customer) would really benefit alot from it?

I can see it will be faster and more easy but imo creating macro`s is a part of the progress and not that hard to learn.

~edit
I dont really know what kind of functions u exactly mean,but right now using pwnboxer is not against the rules why risk that status.

[lofblad]

There is really no need to risk going there, being that Blizzard are finicky with that kind of addon handling (what with the multiboxing addons in reality in this case are costing real money). Go with a pure multiboxing program, and provide the necessary addons/macros on a support site, like this one. IMHO

[Fattness]

Would it be against the TOL if you had a shell of an addon ingame that was free to download but had certain built in functions that are specifically made to talk to and interpret commands directly from Pwnboxer. It would be like Jamba having specific functions with its MB program that would remain dormant and unusable if you weren't using that MB software.

[LindlineOLD]

But then, youre creating a direct and active link between an addon and a third-party program.