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Old 01-07-2011, 03:39 PM   #1
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Default Using HKN and PWNboxer to decurse

Has anyone here made this work?

I started experimenting with HKN and I wanna use its repeater regions with mouse over to decurse. What I am trying to achieve is the following:
- I want an addon that will display the debuff that needs decursing on my main screen (of all my toons) and allowing me to click on the toons that needs cleansing from my master.
Example: my pally can't cure disease but my shammy can. I want to be able to see the disease on my pally's screen, then hover over whoever is diseased (say my mage) and click his avatar. I want this click to be broadcast to my slaves and those who can cure the disease (shammy, etc..) to cure it.

Anyone is aware of some thing that does that ?

The other question is how does PWNboxer resize slave game windows? I ask because I can't seem to broadcast the mouse click in HKN when I hover the rectangle that I designate. I have all windows running 1920x1080. Of course the 4 slave windows on my 2nd monitor are much smaller than my main so does pwnboxer keep the resolution?
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Old 01-07-2011, 05:23 PM   #2
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Default Re: Using HKN and PWNboxer to decurse

Pwnboxer does a number of things to the windows, not just resizing them, which explains why it often only takes 1-2% CPU power for each small alt window. That is one of the secret things Pwnboxer does to make things run SUPER efficient.

I will say though that there are people using Mousecloner.com with Keyclone and HKN, a lot actually. Other than that, not sure about PB.

As far as seeing diseases, using Pwnboxer's zoom feature (enables you to put any part of any WoW game directly on your main game).

Also, just a hint here, but Pwnboxer 3.0 has some new things coming out specific to this
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I would go with one of Grid, Healbot or Vuhdo for the frames.
You can size and position them as you see fit.
Set them to display whatever buffs or debuffs you would like.

You will need an alphabetical (or other fixed order... not sure how to do a fixed order other than alphabetical) sort, so each frame is the same on every window. Healbot/Vuhdo can do this as stand alone addons, Grid will require GridCustomLayouts.



You are essentially using two technologies in conjunction.
First the Repeater Region (HKN).
Second the addon/addons to sort the frames, display what you choose and interpret your clicks.
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:06 PM   #4
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Healbot is not displaying the debuffs that my paladin can't remove, for example curses. Is there any addon out there that will display that ?

Tim, all I need to know is if a window is 1920x1080, will that be the same resolution for all the windows?

I love the zoom function but I use to find mining/herb nodes so I need something else that will display the debuff status of my toons
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Pretty sure you can configure Grid to display both debuffs you can cure and those you cannot. I'd imagine Healbot and Vuhdo would be the same. But am not positive that they are. I know I see debuffs on my Grid that I cannot remove with the class I am playing.
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Old 01-08-2011, 02:30 PM   #6
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Pretty sure you can configure Grid to display both debuffs you can cure and those you cannot. I'd imagine Healbot and Vuhdo would be the same. But am not positive that they are. I know I see debuffs on my Grid that I cannot remove with the class I am playing.
ok i will try grid
why do i need grid custom layouts ? (i saw it on one of your other posts...)
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:56 PM   #7
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Grid is the basic addon.

The custom layouts, is an addon for grid, which allows for non-standard layouts. The default gets you...

If you are not the party leader:
- Your Toon
- Party Leader
- Party Two
- Party Three
- Party Four

If you are the leader:
- Your Toon
- Party Two
- Party Three
- Party Four
- Party Five

Which means the top frame is different on every screen.
And you have no way of telling the decursing toon to heal your toon, because the frames do not match.

With a CustomLayout (GridCustomLayouts), you can have an alphabetical sort, where the top frame is the same for every character, as is the second, third, fourth and bottom frame. That way, when you Shift + Scroll Wheel Up (or whatever you set your Decurse to), it actually decurses/buffs/heals/etc the correct toon.
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Old 01-09-2011, 09:05 AM   #8
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I figured it out.
I need to post a guide about it, because it was not very intuitive, which I will soon. HKN is a powerful tool, and it works with PBoxer really nicely.

First thing I noticed, is that decursing is not as easy as healing. When healing you only need to hover the pointer over your low hp toon on the alphabetically sorted list (now I get what you meant ualaa, thanks for clarifying) and then click your hotkey and that will transmit to the healer.

For decursing, it's trickier as different toons cure different debuffs, and so it will become tricky to see who is afflicted by a debuff and what toon can cure it. It is absolutely essential for me to be able to SEE who is afflicted by ANY debuff on my paladin's screen.

So I figured the following:
- My pally can take care of poisons and diseases and I can do that with decursive. It's laid out nicely over my main action bar
- My shammy can cure curses
- My priest can cure magic

I configured Grid to only show debuffs, I don't care about all the other info it broadcasts (although the amount of incoming healing is nice...)

Using HKN's MouseIsOverWindowRect command, when a toon is afflicted by a debuff that needs curing, I hover my mouse over their name (on my paladin screen) and with a ctrl-leftclik (shammy) or alt-leftclick(priest) send the appropriate command to the shammy or priest to debuff the toon.
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Repeater Regions are really nice.

In Cataclysm, I've really revamped several of the teams.
I am running/leveling:
- A: 5x Ferals
- B: 1x Priest, 4x Frost DK
- C: 1x Paladin, 4x Elem. Shaman
- D: 1x Blood DK, 1x Arcane Mage, 1x Destro Warlock, 1x Resto Shaman, 1x Resto Druid.

As far as Repeater Regions go...
A: Passes my clicks to all toons who are in Cat or Caster forms, but toons in other forms. I do this by also adding/removing toons from the Action Target Group that receives the heal clicks on the same mapped keys (hot keys) as my form shifts. I really like that Flight Form cannot accidently cast a spell because of an inadvertent mouse click; although unlike other fliers they have the potential to recover.
B: The clicks are passed directly to a single toon; I have single target cleanses mapped but use mouse broadcasting for Mass Dispel for magic based afflictions.
C: In PvE, the clicks are sent to one Shammy who runs as Resto; in PvP, the clicks are instead sent to the Pally only, for 1x Heals and 4x Ranged DPS.
D: The clicks are passed to a Resto group (Action Target Group), which usually includes both the Druid and Shaman; I can remove either or both toons from this group, when they go into their Balance/Elemental specs.

I treat decurses, with the exception of Mass Dispel, as single target heals. Grid displays all debuffs, and a given click-heal (read: Decurse) might only be mapped on the one toon.
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I treat decurses, with the exception of Mass Dispel, as single target heals. Grid displays all debuffs, and a given click-heal (read: Decurse) might only be mapped on the one toon.
Tell me how you do that again please.... Are you using grid and clique and repeater region?
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