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Old 03-09-2010, 10:53 PM   #1
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Default Tim: Hunter Vs Shaman

Hey Tim,

Great work you have done on the streaming, however I still can't figure out what time you stream for UK time.

Anyways Just a quick question, If my main focus was to end up with 5x level 80's and pvp with them what would you suggest 4 Hunters + 1 Preist or 5x Shamans?

I'm new to shamans as I usually play hunters so this will be the first time however after watching you oawn with 10!! shamans in PVP I got inspired and wanted to be just like you Hmm will 5x do the same job like your 10 did?

Anyways I noticed on a forum thread that you changed from 5x shamans to the hunters. I'm just wondering why you did this? and what is your end goal PVP or PVP + any spacific details?

I know it's alot m8 but before i go spend $$$ on PawnBoxer and WOW Stuff I need to make sure I'm clear about what I'm doing.

Thanks M8. Look forward to hearing from you.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:00 PM   #2
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Default Re: Tim: Hunter Vs Shaman

Personally, 5x shaman by a huge amount.

Both are mail classes, but the shaman can use a shield.
So they'll last quite a bit longer with melee on them.

Shaman totems add a ton.
Tremor totems staggered, essentially render you immune to fear.
Five Fire Elementals... is a lot of AoE power, and leaves you free to do other stuff.

Every toon can rez and heal.

With Flame Shock + Lava Burst, you have guaranteed criticals, which can outright kill anyone if they combo lands.

I would think 1x Druid + 4x Shaman might be the ideal team for PvP and PvE with the same set of toons. The druid gets you a Feral tank, and with dual-spec you get a Balance Druid for +13% spell power. PvE heroics, can get you starter (via badges) pvp gear much faster then grinding battlegrounds.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:15 PM   #3
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Happy Birthday Ualaa!

Hey man do you have skype or anything we can use to talk on?
Anyways, Would you advise say starting with 1x Druid + 4x Shamans?
Also won't it be quite confusing to multibox? I mean having 5x all the same class makes it easier when all all toons use the same spell rotion / key layout.

Im new to both Shamans, Druids and also Multiboxing. Ive watched the intro vids that tim made but even though they give a good starter info they don't exactly show you step by step so Im still finding it hard to under stand all of this. Sorry for being a pain This is why I asked if you have skype, vent, TS etc

Anyways I purchased 5x WOW CD keys last night & spent an hour creating all the accounts in the daisy chain A - B - C etc.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:14 AM   #4
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Default Re: Tim: Hunter Vs Shaman

For a first time multiboxers, I would go the 4x Shaman 1x Druid route, just like Ualaa mentioned.

Your best bet is to check this video out: YouTube - Set up multiboxing in World of Warcraft in under 5 minutes with Pwnboxer


It shows you how to get multiboxing in minutes with the 3 most powerful and basic macros that you will need (follow, focus, assist).
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:17 AM   #5
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I just found this too (wonder who did it?!) YouTube - Dual-boxing - An Introduction
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:29 AM   #6
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For your rotation...

Put Lightning Bolt on "1".
Also put Wrath on "1".

That will get quite a ways...
Both are quick casting spells, so chances are it will be two volleys to kill most mobs while questing.
But, almost everything will be dead before they close to melee.

Eventually, I'd move towards "Click Castsequences", there is a guide for that in the Guide Section.
For lower levels, a very basic approach will work.

I'd suggest starting with a Focus based assist.
Where the active toon is the Focus of all toons (themself too), unless you change it.
And then have your toons casting at the target of the focus.
Type "/macro" in warcraft (without the quotes).
Choose the red question-mark as the icon.
Call it something like LB or Wrath.
Type on line 1 "#showtooltip"
Type on line 2 "/cast [target=FocustTarget] Wrath" (or Lightning Bolt for the shaman).

For the focus change, have one macro per toon on your team.
On the same keybind, everyone has:
/Focus [Target=Toon A]
Change Toon A to be the name of the toon on your first account.
So when you press this keybind, that toon is the focus of all of the characters.

By having a focus set macro for each toon, any of them can lead.
And with /cast [target=FocusTarget] type macros, whoever is leading, the others auto assist.

For heals, probably stick with Rejuvenation (druid) and Lesser Healing Wave (shaman).
Use this format:
#showtooltip
/cast [target=FocusTarget,Help][target=FocusTargetTarget,Help] Name Of Heal
This will heal the target of the team leader, if that target is friendly... so you can have everyone hit whoever you target with a heal.
But if the first condition fails (the target of your Focus is not friendly) then the second condition will kick in, which means you'll target the target of whoever you are killing, which will usually be one of your toons.

The basics are pretty basic.
But you can tweak your set up, into a lot of directions...
Decide what you want to do, to make your play easier/stronger/etc.
And if you're not sure, don't be afraid to ask for help.

Welcome to the hobby.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:39 AM   #7
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Default Re: Tim: Hunter Vs Shaman

WOW Thanks buddy, Well Servers are all backup and I think it's time to put Boxer & These New Accounts to the test.

I'll keep replying to this thread if I need help rather than opening a new one as that just complicates things I guess.
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I just found this too (wonder who did it?!) YouTube - Dual-boxing - An Introduction
That would be me. Saw your comment on my Youtube channel earlier
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:37 PM   #9
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Forgot to add:

/follow [target=Focus]

So the slaves (non-active toons) will follow the master (active toon who is everyone's focus).

Put the follow command on the same keybind for all toons.
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