Tank/Healer Duo?

[Teál]

If you started from scratch and where going to level a DUO for high level instances what combo would you do. I have found that DPS is VERY easy to fill in and I only have 2 accounts... 3 if you count the wives haha.

Tank options...
Paladin: They have a very high survival rate and can throw down nice dps on group pulls making for fast leveling. They seem to be the Tank of choice for multiboxers.

DK: are just straight up awesome to level with. Sooo much damage and again very high survival rate. Seem to be a rather popular choice for multiboxers.

Druid: I do not know much about Druids in a tank role. I worry a bit about threat generation and control. Seem to be a rather popular choice for multiboxers.

Warrior: I do not know much about Warriors in a tank role. Have never been able to play one past 22... Do not see many of these in the multiboxing community, why not?


Healer options...
Priest: Do not know much about higher level healing as a priest. They seem great from what I have seen. I like the AoE healing options here. It is the disc priest spec I do not understand.

Druid: Seem like it would work best as a Multiboxer healer. Fast heals that are instant cast... but again, donot know much about them.

Shaman: Love a Shaman healer. I stress a bit about healing crazy ranged dps PUG members if they do not let the tank get enough threat. But the totems are sweet and they have a great range on their heals. I have a lvl 80 resto now.

So, tell me your thoughts on combos. I have a couple in mind but I would like your input before I make a decision.

Also, I will be testing the reasoning behind your choice. So if you do not give me some idea of why I will be asking haha.

[ebony]

Paladin or Warrior are the best tanks in wow. (high end raids)

i played a pally tank for since bc came out (wonted to make a space goat) and i love it ever since fast easy argo does not take a lot off dmg so i would vote for this

as for healer a aoe healer would be a good choice to go with sharman with chain heals or even maybe a durid like u said no aoe healers but a lot off dot heals and nice mana rejen *ok they got a big aoe heal but its on a cooldown*

saying that dk easyer to level i do not think they do so well as a tank they not got block bears are cool that when u get to 80 no def cap to worry about go in hc the sec u hit 80

really all got pro and con they sould all beable to main and offtank now, but its what u would like to play with.

are u on the ptr? if so u could make premades and try them out u can olny make 4 each accont, somethink good to do, i do this when i wont to add a member change a member in my group i got fed up level to find out i did not like it at 80, or to much off a pain to box

[Teál]

So let me test my understanding here...

Paladin is your first choice for tank?

Originally Posted by ebony

bears are cool that when u get to 80 no def cap to worry about go in hc the sec u hit 80

And, what was it you were saying about druid tanks not needing to max out defense. Did I read that right? Druids are just there, or do they just not have the worries about the cap like the other 3 do?

And you would choose a Shaman as the healer, right? What order would you put the healers in? First to last.

[ebony]

sorry, ya my post was mass,

i would go for a pally yes if it was me,

but yes druid tanks do not need def they get it from a talent (like all tanks in the next exp 4.*)

tank list
1) pally
2) duilrd (10box probey would have one)
3) warroir
4) dk

healers list i go for a

1) sharman - what i use
2) duild -if i was to 10box i use had this as a 2nd healer
3) priest -if i was to 10 box i might duelspec it a healer


not even 80 and thinking about my 10box team

[Scribble™]

Pally tank is what i would go for because of AoE threat and also they do put out some nice damage while tanking.

I would honestly go for a Priest/Druid healer if your looking for solely a healer as they have so much utility.

But ez mode healing is Druid so its really down to preference!

[Teál]

Ok, so a Paladin is the tank of choice it seems. I do have to worry a bit about the defence cap, but I should be able to accomplish this with that.

So If I stay with the shaman healer I have for my duo I will just have to make it clear to the ranged that if they want healing they need to stay within the range of the chain heal to the tank.

If I go with the Druid then I need to focus mostly on healing, so my attention will be spread out a bit more.

If I go with the priest then I will have to have the ranged stay close to the priest for healing.

So it seems that it is likely I will stay with the Shaman.

Good news I have a 47 BE pally(not geared since lvl 28) and a 51 orc shaman. So much less work to level since RAF is gone now.

[Scribble™]

I was worried about Def cap when i leveled a paladin but i found out its not acctually that hard to hit the cap :] mine i capped for raids now just stacking stam basically.

[Ualaa]

A paladin is far and away the easiest tank to play while boxing.
You can make a simple 96969 macro (well once you're 75+ you'll have all the spells for it).
Spamming the macro keeps Holy Shield up all the time, and is strong threat on single targets. A Paladin via damage on block and consecration will have great threat on secondary targets.
A warrior, druid or death knight can one-box as effectively, but is much harder to macro as a tank when boxing.

In Cataclysm, whenever that is, all tanks will be crit immune (defense capped) from talents alone. Until you're running heroics or raids, defense isn't really much of a concern.

For the healer, if you don't have a shaman in your team, I'd say Resto is a no brainer. You get most of the totem goodies (missing Totem of Wrath for casters, but Flametongue Totem is pretty good), have fire, cold or nature resist as you want, chain heal is decent for groups etc. Heroism/Bloodlust is amazing on boss fights. Cleansing Totem trivializes poison/disease type aoe's etc. Earth Shield on the tank is pretty amazing passive heals.

A disc priest (or holy, but disc is stronger boxed) is a better group healer, but without a shaman already on the team, they don't bring nearly as much to the table.

[Teál]

So Ualla, what you are saying is that IF I had a third account for another toon you might play a priest as healer and use a shaman as elemental for the totems?

[Ualaa]

I personally 5-box.

If you already have an elemental on your team, then I'd take a Priest over probably anything for a healer (I love Disc Priests). But without any shaman's on your team, the shaman brings a ton to the group.

My choices are from the perspective of running five toons. And pretty much aside from the tank, my groups have always been caster heavy. An elemental shaman adds a massive amount to an all caster group. A boomkin druid also adds a massive amount, but then you need to manage Eclipse procs for maximum dps. Even without an elemental shaman, having one shaman is a huge edge for a party - bloodlust/heroism is huge, windfury/wrath of air is haste equivalent to an obscene amount of haste rating, if you're alliance side you get 1% hit, you get either passive health or mana regen or occasionally disease/poison cleanse every 3 seconds. Tremor totem pulses when dropped and every 3 seconds thereafter (and multiple shammies can stagger them once more) for fear/sleep/charm protection.

From the perspective of two toons, a Paladin gets you a tank which is very strong for both single target and multiple mob pulls on a one button spam - which means you really only need to worry about positioning and facing of the mobs.

If you know nothing else about the party, other then the tank is a Paladin, I'd take the shaman as the healer. They add so much, and can greatly buff any composition from totems; granted an elemental is better for casters or an enhancement is better for melee, but resto can heal effectively and brings a lot more besides heals to the table.