I REALLY need help setting up my heals.

[Snowy42]

I'm currently running 3x shammy setup, i've done up to 5 shammys/druids/etc before and the main problem I always run into with my setups is the healing.

I'm going to talk in reference to my current 3x shaman setup for now.

First, when in a group with people other than my chars (e.g. my wife/friends) I can't use Character names in the macros. So I use @party#, but that seems to raise further issues, where to my main char, @party1 may be the tank, but to my slaves, @party1 may be me. Not sure why this happens, but it can raise a lot of issues. (or am I imagining this one?)

Second, I could simply target who I need to heal with my main char, then spam heals, but as an aussie, the delay between my main clicking on the target, and the slaves recognising that target is up to half a second (a long time when spamming buttons)

Thirdly, is there a better way of setting up the heals other than 5 individual buttons/button combos (e.g. 1,2,3,4,5 or 1,S+1,A+1,AS+1,C+1) just for healing? Granted 1,2,3,4,5 may not be an issue if the first thing i mentioned actually worked.

I haven't tried to set up clickable regions yet, that may be the next thing to try, but the issue with THAT is that when using grid, the position of the group seems to be different per character.


Everything else about multiboxing is pretty much fine, I just feel VERY clumsy when trying to get off heals. Moving/directing/positioning is also a bit of an issue for me and my latency, but that's nothing that you guys could help with... Unless you have such influential powers that you can get me a WoW server here in aus

Thanks in advance for any help!

[Drarkan]

The way I had it setup with PWNBoxer before was with the Numkeys bound to cast a specific heal on a specific toon.... this is a very inconvenient method of attack. Another method is healbot and click mapping. I don't know how to use this method but I've seen tim use it and others. I basically made healbot huge on my healer window and clicked the heals as was needed with focus on mouse over turned on.

Right now I use IS Boxer which uses video FX which shows a source area of a window like your healer's healbot window, and a viewer on all your other toons no matter what toon you're on, and with that area setup to repeat the mouse on that window alone, it will let you click the healbot as if it was in your main screen all the, however its still on your healer's window. So now all you have to do with it is setup healbot the way you like to cast and bobs your uncle.

[Chamassa]

Personally, i would run a 3 healer setup with a macro set with this functionality:

shift + key = all 3 heal toon 1
ctrl + key = all 3 heal toon 2
alt + key = all 3 heal toon 3
no mod + key = all 3 heal self

or something like that, maybe toon 1 = no mod, you get the idea
I personally am not a big fan of binding to my numpad, but thats because i am a heavy mouse mover and i dislike standing still, meaning that either a) im not able to use my keybinds around ASWD or b) i need to let go of my mouse.

Id probably bind that stuff to F1, F2, F3, F4, 1 through 5, Q, E, Z, X, C (thats how i play my single chars aswell :P) with modkeys where needed

Clickmapping, mouse broadcasting and all that stuff is fancy and nice, but i personally do not want to use my mouse to activate spells :P (i got rid of that habbit, finally, which made me better in PVE on my main.. by a lot XD)

[Snowy42]

I've figured the best way to do it is a clickmapping with grid, gridcustomlayouts and Clique. Works brilliantly and is easy to do.

Clickmapping, mouse broadcasting and all that stuff is fancy and nice, but i personally do not want to use my mouse to activate spells :P (i got rid of that habbit, finally, which made me better in PVE on my main.. by a lot XD)

Clicking to heal is actually a MORE efficient way to do it. Rather than click a person, then press a key to cast the spell. You simply have to hold a modifier and click on them to cast it. (Using clique or something similar ofc).

The only thing that would be possibly equally efficient without clicking would be using mouseover heals. The reason I won't do that is because it still requires me to take up another binding around my main position for something that I could be putting an offensive/defensive spell in, rather than a heal.

Thanks for your help guys.

[Ualaa]

A Repeater Region, which is available via Hot Key Net irregardless of whether your software supports Repeater Regions (the IS Boxer term), has to be the most efficient healer set up.

Basically you have a Grid, Healbot or Vuhdo frame, which is sorted alphabetically (you can force your toons to always display in column one) so the grid is the same on all toons.

Then Grid uses Clique, while Healbot/Vuhdo interpret the clicks on their own, so when you move your mouse over a given toons Grid... each click does a different heal.
For shammies, you might have Riptide, Earth Shield, Small/Fast Heal, Slow/Efficient Heal, Middle Heal.
These could be Scroll Wheel Up, Scroll Wheel Down, Alt Left Click, Ctrl Left Click, Shift Left Click.
So a normal Left Click would still select the target and a Right Click would still get you the menu to do trade, chat or whatever.

[Drarkan]

Another way to do it if you want to is drive with your healer, and have only your tank go in with IWT and CTM activated, and any ranged or casters have those options off. This however could get out of control since you can't directly agro a stray NPC enemy from the healer window.

Either the click mapping method or region of mouse repeating on your healing window only is the best way I think.

[Snowy42]

Originally Posted by Drarkan

Another way to do it if you want to is drive with your healer, and have only your tank go in with IWT and CTM activated, and any ranged or casters have those options off. This however could get out of control since you can't directly agro a stray NPC enemy from the healer window.

Either the click mapping method or region of mouse repeating on your healing window only is the best way I think.

I could never trust IWT&CTM that much. Plus with my latency, the difference between life and death can be the half a second it takes for my tank to taunt.

Click mapping seems to work best, so i'm sticking with that.

[Tim]

It really comes down to a preference I think.

For me, I have the G11 keyboard, and it is FAAAAR easier to simply set a macro on the 18 programmable keys. So rather than even move my mouse, I simply move my pinky on my left hand and hit the heal key. For multiboxing shamans, for example, I have 1 key to chain heal on all, and other keys to focus LHW on single guys. Super easy, takes 0 brain processing, and just is, well, easy

To me, that seems like the easiest way.

Also there is a guy who emailed me a while back asking if PB supported that Razor Naga mouse with the whole numpad on the actual mouse. So he told me laterwords that he loved it, and he did all his healing using the extra 10 mouse numpad buttons.

So I think it just is about preference

EDIT: I don't set the macro on the keys, I set it in WoW, and then assign one of the keys something like ALT+SHIFT+CTRL+7

[Snowy42]

Yeh, I know what you mean.

I've always used Grid/Clique for my heals, and so it's actually quite difficult for me to use my keyboard for healing now. So adjusting the way I do it just a little and setting up click mapping makes it a breeze for me. Also doesn't tie up my keyboard, so i can use my G19 keys for something else

After talking to Xartin last night, I've got my G19 keys set up for moving my chars forwards (to stop follow) space them out, etc. Also thinking of putting my IWT key on there, as I reckon I could use my 't' key for something else.

Does anyone else rebind all their interface keys? e.g. C for char screen, etc.

Also I've heard of people actually moving their WASD keys to ESDF, so they can use WQA and RTG for more bindings, makes sense, but I've used WASD since I was about 5. Putting my hand on a keyboard and it subconsciously just lands in the WASD position. I don't think I could teach myself to move that :P

But does anyone do that?

[Tim]

WASD for the win!