I have to say Tim....

[kasper3577]

Originally Posted by Nghtmr9999

I'm sure quite a bit has changed since I played, but here is my 2¢


My main when leveling during the BC days was a rogue. I loved it.

I liked the lack of mana the Rogue had, meaning the only downtime I experienced was health regeneration. However, since I was an Undead/Forsaken, cannibalize was my friend.

Korgath (PVP) was my main server. If I got jumped by an alliance when I was killing something, I could quickly press my "oh s*** escape" combination of blind, sprint, and vanish. When the blind wore off, I would look on and laugh while the alliance tried looking for me (in the opposite direction of where I was).

(Now going to more of a neutral stance)

Although Rogues did some pretty serious melee DPS (near the top at the time of BC I think) I didn't really like how I was so close to raid bosses sometimes (i.e. prince of Kara).


All in all, I liked playing and leveling my Rogue. If I ever came back to WoW, I would probably give the Hunter a try, with their new focus skill. I don't foresee that happening, unless someone is really generous and pays my sub.


Of course, the final decision lies with the player and how they like to play. If you don't like how rogues level or play, fine by me

Can I get change from your 2¢? LOL

[Ualaa]

Goblin cannot go Pally/Druid.
Worgen cannot go Pally/Shaman.

Given you've just done a Mage, the race cannot go Paladin and the rogue style bores you (that precludes Rogue + Feral Druid), I'd recommend an Affliction Warlock for straight solo play or a Demonology Warlock if you'll instance too.

Affliction is highly mobile, with a double dot and run around for the next one who is also double dotted style. With some talents you can drain tank quite effectively, especially once you reach 71+ and can go Soul Link too. You'll have Howl of Terror, which will eventually be instant from talents. Your corruption will heal you via Siphon Life as will Haunt. You can use the Imp or Succubus for DPS, the Felhunter for PvP and the Blueberry for anything you'd want a tanking pet.

Demonology is very similar to the Hunter style. You can go Shadow Dots + Shadowbolt (like Affliction) or use Fire (like Destruction) with equal power. Your AoE potential is huge with Hellfire/Rain of Fire + Immolation Aura and the Felguard Cleave. You have massive health and the demon takes a percentage of your damage, while being healed by your damage too. Unlike Affliction, your DPS has no ramp up on trash, if you do instances.

[Tim]

Hey Ualaa, thanks for the info on the Warlock.

When you say that Demonology has no ramp up no trash, what do you mean?

Also question: Which has better self heals, Affliction Warlock or Shadow Priest?

[Ualaa]

Demo gets a bonus to Shadow and Fire damage.
So you can go Immolate + Incinerate (or straight Incinerate spam) or Corruption + Agony + Shadowbolt spam (or straight Shadowbolt spam), with the same bonus from having gone Demonology. Optimal DPS in an instance might be Immolate + Incinerate spam until dead.
Plus the Felguard is a decent portion of your damage, and it will charge in and attack a single mob or do its bladestorm like move with its axe on packs of mobs.

If you were affliction, where your bonus spell damage is entirely Shadow, your optimal DPS on a boss might be Haunt + Unstable Affliction + Corruption + Agony + S.Bolt spam. Straight Shadowbolt spam on the boss might only be half DPS, so you're at half power when you 1-2 shot trash mobs in a party (with two other DPS killing them too). Conversely, if you were to go UA + Haunt + Corruption + Agony, then S.Bolt spam, the mob is dead and your dots have ticked 0-3 times each, while you have wasted mana sufficient to cast 5 or 6 S.Bolts... and the damage meter will show, almost no damage contribution from you.

I would think Shadow would have slightly more passive healing, via straight DPS. But am not positive on that. An Affliction who uses Drain Life instead of a direct damage type spell would last a lot longer, especially if they were talented to not lose much cast time. Also, you could take Soul Link and Fel Synergy in Demo for 20% glyphed (damage to the pet) and the pet healing for half the damage you deal... basically 20% damage reduction.

Affliction has Lifetap, which is going to be less downtime than any other caster. Shadow Priest has mana from Vampiric Touch which won't be even close. Lifetap, combined with a bandage each minute, is much better mana recovery than Evocation or Innervate over their duration. Plus, Affliction will rarely wait for 100% life before attacking.

[Zub]

you just did a full stream of a caster, for maximum diversity (and entertainment) you should go melee this time round.
Rogues are good for speedy questing when you know where to go, as you can skip heaps. You got literally no downtime, can escape from anything and everything.
Plus, the Worgen Rogue moves are pretty neat.

Really, unless you just want to make the same videos with a brownish toon rather than a greenish toon, go melee.