Found this on the Blizz CS forums.

[Forry]

Well, I have some lag issues ATM so I hoped on the Blizzard customer service forums and found a thread about the whole two actions with one button press. I'm interested to see how it turns out, hopefully it doesn't spiral out of control.

Multiboxing Question - Help! - Forums - World of Warcraft

EDIT: BOOM! blue post an action on the downwards and another on the release is NOT excepted.



(Tim edit, in case post goes down, I took a screenshot)

[Drarkan]

Yes such as if you press to cast fireball and on the release cast holy nova, that would be against the EULA. And plain lazy in my opinion. Press a second button for crying out loud! LOL

[Forry]

well looks like it didn't take to long before it turned ugly.

[Tim]

I just woke up and checked my email / PMs and see a lot of information about this.

What is really funny is that the DB site is posting saying it was ME who posted to Blizzard and got a GM to respond! A DB moderator said himself "This is Tim being Tim". What is especially crazy is that people are so quick to forget that I broadcasted live TWENTY HOURS straight and then passed out and went to sleep. Anybody watching the stream last night could probably attest that I had issues even speaking coherent sentences at the end Considering that all of this happened while I blacked out from gaming an entire day 100% live for the community, these people on the DB site are once again making things up to try and validate and vindicate themselves.

I'm not sure about you guys, but writing forum posts is not something I do in my sleep!

Okay so this basically confirms that IS Boxer has a function that many people are utilizing in World of Warcraft which is against the rules and can result in your account being banned as per Blizzard's quote:

Correct. Having your character do something on a key press and another action on the release would exceed that one action per key press guideline.

I'll state what I've said many times before: Blizzard makes the rules of the games and it is shameful for any developer to jeopardize the accounts of their customers by trying to push the envelope of those rules to try and gain a financial advantage over competitors.

It is the duty of any developer to respect their customers and understand that their customers put a certain amount of reliance and trust into the software they purchase. To include functionality that is shady, while the customer trusts in you that it is not, is wrong.

Maybe Blizzard will allow this feature in the future, maybe they will turn a blind eye and not ban, who knows. Nobody can make these decisions except Blizzard. As of right now (past years too?) the risk is there, and any developer of multiboxing software should be shamed by putting their customers to risk for their own personal gain.

There isn't anything else really to be said from my point of view other than my users can continue to trust that I will not choose financial gain over safety of functionality in Pwnboxer. I have morals and I have respect for my users and I will not jeopardize both for financial gain.

[Tim]

A Super Moderator at the website owned by the software confirmed to have bannable features has responded stating that this "has zero impact on ISBoxer" despite Blizzard clearly stating that this is not allowed.

Shameful

[Drarkan]

ISBoxer doesn't support doing another action on the release action. You can setup an action to fire on PRESS or RELEASE, there is no way to have ISBoxer do one action with PRESS then anther on RELEASE. Its not how its setup at all. Probably having that feature in there sets some confusion as to having different actions fire on each type of press as if it was botting. However its not the case.

Besides why would you need something like that when you can acomplish it all in a /castsequence macro which blizzard does allow.

[EaTCarbS]

With the GCD in wow, all of this is moot.

[Unca]

Originally Posted by Tim

What is especially crazy is that people are so quick to forget that I broadcasted live TWENTY HOURS straight and then passed out and went to sleep.

Wimp.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by Drarkan

ISBoxer doesn't support doing another action on the release action. You can setup an action to fire on PRESS or RELEASE

I'm afraid that isn't correct. The bannable feature in IS Boxer is this: IS Boxer allows you to press a key and use that to do one action, and then when you release that same key, have it do another action.

So when you type a key a normal way, it does one thing ("a" for example). When you use IS Boxer, it can do a + b, 2 actions. This is what Blizzard specifically has stated is not allowed, ie bannable.

The issue REALLY is this: The IS Boxer developer has knowingly put shady features in his program that put his customers at risk and he knowingly said that these features are AOK. Now that there is a direct response saying something is bannable, he still choose to enable that feature.

Bottom line is morals (or in his case, lack thereof).

Here is a question that has been asked of me many times. Why do I care? Why does Tim Sullivan give a rats ass what other multiboxing softwares do and if their developers are shady or not?

Easy answer:

Which is more likely for Blizzard to do?

Publish a list of acceptable multiboxing softwares, thus giving those software developers HUGE amounts of cash for being on that list and having that list crush their competition by banning softwares not on that list?

-OR-

Simply disallow multiboxing as a whole. Keep in mind the WoW community is overall split when it comes to multiboxing in the first place.

The answer is so easily understood, isn't it? Blizzard will not confuse their customer base by saying what software is which, nor will they give free marketing revenue to softwares on that list. Blizzard will 100% choose to simply disallow multiboxing entirely.

The multiboxing playstyle has always been "on the fence" at Blizzard. The implications of what IS Boxer is doing goes outside of the shady, unethical and immoral practices of its developer. The implications affect anybody who multiboxes.

Do not fight the 8000000 lb rule-making gorilla on this. Do not force Blizzard's hand. Be nice, play along, and don't push boundaries when they are so obviously on the fence of closing down acceptable to multiboxing in the first place.


TLDR/Summary: Only do what Blizzard allows, don't push them, and multiboxing will probably stay around forever. If you push Blizzard hard then Blizzard may very well push back and disallow multiboxing.

[Chamassa]

Originally Posted by Drarkan

Besides why would you need something like that when you can acomplish it all in a /castsequence macro which blizzard does allow.

Well yes and no.
The thing is you can do a lot more then casting spells with button presses.
The issue is not so much of what a normal multiboxer would do with it, its what CAN be done with it. For example, pressing one button could do multiple steps in posting auctions, it can mean you can walk up to and activate a portal, it can do a bunch of things, the problem is that none of it is allowed, however unusefull it may seem, it means you aren't sticking to the 1 button 1 action rule that is the bottomline of bliz their macro system and about every rule that we multiboxers get to deal with.

Its a line we shouldnt be crossing, the option being there is an issue for multiboxers of WoW.
THat said, it doesnt mean it shouldnt be there.. it should just not be there for WoW profiles, or atleast have a warning or whatever. Doing nothing is just wrong.