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Old 06-04-2011, 02:57 PM   #1131
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Default Re: Exact way to stream with FME to JTV - READ HERE

@Cinchil

Try changing your .bat file to this...

Code:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Flash Media Encoder 2.5\FMEcmd.exe" /p c:\fme\justin.xml
(omit quotation marks around /p c:\fme\justin.xml)

Second, be sure you have everything in the right folder (is your XML in c:\fme\justin.xml?)
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:15 PM   #1132
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Got it working but the audio is nothing but crackles. any suggestions?

Stream is here. http:/www.justin.tv/cinchil

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Old 06-04-2011, 06:32 PM   #1133
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RavingNoah's Asylum on Justin.tv

Wow...I am going to have to scale back...big time. My "stream" was more like a penny arcade with a transistor radio thrown in. I wonder if my ISP is messing with me on top of any other network misconfiguration aspects I may currently enjoy...
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Old 06-05-2011, 03:50 AM   #1134
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Default Re: Exact way to stream with FME to JTV - READ HERE

The last stream you did is really good quality, but the FPS is a bit bleh.

A few tweaks and I think you'll be set.

What are your PC specs RavingNoah?

Try:

FME 2.5
1920x1080 desktop
1920x1080 VHScrCap (old non water mark) capture
1500 kbps bitrate
128kbps mp3 audio
VP6 encoding, 10sec keyframe, good/good
10 fps stream
COMMAND LINE METHOD!

Give that a try!
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Old 06-05-2011, 04:22 PM   #1135
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My EVGA mobo-based system:

Processor: Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33Ghz
RAM: 4.00 GB
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate Service Pack 1
System type: 64-bit Operating System
Display Adapter: Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT
Display1: Samsung SyncMaster T240 (Native Resolution: 1920x1200)
Display2: Samsung SyncMaster 940N (Native Resolution: 1280x1024)
Network adapter: Nvidia nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet (x2)
Audio: M-Audio FastTrack Pro
Input1: Razer Naga
Input2: Razer Nostromo
Input3: World of Warcraft Cataclysm Mouse (seems to interfere with Razer)
Input4: basic Logitech keyboard

ISP: Time Warner Cable (not something I can control)
Plan: Roadrunner Broadband Turbo "Speeds up to 20Mbps"
Recent Speedtest: 24.87Mbps down; 0.43Mbps up

Although my download speed appears to be anywhere between 15 and 25 Mbps, each time I've done an upload test, it has been exactly 0.43 Mbps, like there's a governor running, preventing anything faster than that...which I think may be my biggest problem. But then again, I'm no expert in this area.

My justin.xml:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<flashmediaencoder_profile>
    <preset>
        <name>Rheghad_Justin.tv</name>
        <description>My first attempt to stream WoW via Justin.tv</description>
    </preset>
    <capture>
        <video>
        <device>VHScrCap</device>
        <crossbar_input>0</crossbar_input>
        <frame_rate>60</frame_rate>
        <size>
            <width>1920</width>
            <height>1200</height>
        </size>
        </video>
        <audio>
        <device>Microphone (USB Audio Device)</device>
        <crossbar_input>0</crossbar_input>
        <sample_rate>22500</sample_rate>
        <channels>1</channels>
        <input_volume>60</input_volume>
        </audio>
    </capture>
    <process>
        <video>
        <crop>
            <left>0</left>
            <top>0</top>
            <right>0</right>
            <bottom>0</bottom>
        </crop>

        </video>
    </process>
    <encode>
        <video>
        <format>VP6</format>
        <datarate>1000</datarate>
        <advanced>
            <keyframe_frequency>5 seconds</keyframe_frequency>
            <quality>Avg Quality - Great Framerate</quality>
            <noise_reduction>None</noise_reduction>
            <datarate_window>Medium</datarate_window>
            <cpu_usage>Dedicated</cpu_usage>
        </advanced>
        </video>
        <audio>
        <format>Mp3</format>
        <datarate>128</datarate>
        </audio>
    </encode>
    <restartinterval>
        <days></days>
        <hours></hours>
        <minutes></minutes>
    </restartinterval>
    <reconnectinterval>
        <attempts></attempts>
        <interval></interval>
    </reconnectinterval>
    <output>
        <rtmp>
        <url>rtmp://live.justin.tv/app</url>
        <backup_url></backup_url>
        <stream>"live_yakyakyak_thisismystream#"</stream>
        </rtmp>
    </output>
    <metadata>
        <entry>
        <key>author</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>copyright</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>description</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>keywords</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>rating</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>title</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
    </metadata>
    <preview>
        <audio></audio>
    </preview>
    <log>
        <level>100</level>
        <directory>C:\fme\</directory>
    </log>
</flashmediaencoder_profile>
I tried amending this a couple of times. The data rate I first tried was 1500, then 1000, then 500... I also tried knocking down the quality of the mp3 and video format... Tried knocking back the framerate to 30, but each time my system can be heard "winding up" and then whirring far louder than usual...like it's straining, and the actual in-game playability was very, very choppy...like bad lag on a ten-year-old laptop...in Afghanistan! lol

I just settled on the default values, figuring it's the quality or lack thereof available to me by my ISP.

And finally, my justin.bat (using the line for Quadcore users from the boards)
Code:
CD "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Flash Media Encoder 2.5"
start /affinity 8 /high FMEcmd.exe /p c:\fme\justin.xml
I tried the Dynno program only afterwards...but that was even more sad, lol.

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Old 06-05-2011, 05:45 PM   #1136
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Okey doke, tried the settings suggested and amended my justin.xml thusly...

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<flashmediaencoder_profile>
    <preset>
        <name>Rheghad_Justin.tv</name>
        <description>My first attempt to stream WoW via Justin.tv</description>
    </preset>
    <capture>
        <video>
        <device>VHScrCap</device>
        <crossbar_input>0</crossbar_input>
        <frame_rate>60</frame_rate>
        <size>
            <width>1920</width>
            <height>1200</height>
        </size>
        </video>
        <audio>
        <device>Microphone (USB Audio Device)</device>
        <crossbar_input>0</crossbar_input>
        <sample_rate>44100</sample_rate>
        <channels>2</channels>
        <input_volume>60</input_volume>
        </audio>
    </capture>
    <process>
        <video>
        <crop>
            <left>0</left>
            <top>0</top>
            <right>0</right>
            <bottom>0</bottom>
        </crop>

        </video>
    </process>
    <encode>
        <video>
        <format>VP6</format>
        <datarate>1500</datarate>
        <advanced>
            <keyframe_frequency>10 seconds</keyframe_frequency>
            <quality>Good Quality - Good Framerate</quality>
            <noise_reduction>None</noise_reduction>
            <datarate_window>Medium</datarate_window>
            <cpu_usage>Dedicated</cpu_usage>
        </advanced>
        </video>
        <audio>
        <format>Mp3</format>
        <datarate>128</datarate>
        </audio>
    </encode>
    <restartinterval>
        <days></days>
        <hours></hours>
        <minutes></minutes>
    </restartinterval>
    <reconnectinterval>
        <attempts></attempts>
        <interval></interval>
    </reconnectinterval>
    <output>
        <rtmp>
        <url>rtmp://live.justin.tv/app</url>
        <backup_url></backup_url>
        <stream>live_mystreamID_yaddayaddayadda</stream>
        </rtmp>
    </output>
    <metadata>
        <entry>
        <key>author</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>copyright</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>description</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>keywords</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>rating</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
        <entry>
        <key>title</key>
        <value></value>
        </entry>
    </metadata>
    <preview>
        <audio></audio>
    </preview>
    <log>
        <level>100</level>
        <directory>C:\fme\</directory>
    </log>
</flashmediaencoder_profile>

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Old 06-06-2011, 12:34 AM   #1137
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:03 PM   #1138
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Raving, your server buffer is >0, which means you don't have enough bandwidth to send the stream.

Try reducing your stream to 1280x720 and your bitrate to 1000
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Result: Framerate doubled from 5-8 to about 12-17. Buffer rate was the same. As soon as the stream starts, the taxation on the system is not just noticeable, but undeniable. I guess this must be because I'm generating much more content than the server will accept at any given second (like some jackhole bouncer manning the club door), so I just keep filling up my thimble with a gallon of milk, so to speak... This drains the resources and makes doing anything, consequently, an aggravating affair?

Edit: From a Windows site referring to broadcast delays and latencies as a result of the buffer method (of handling large quantities of information in real-time). That's quite a little dance our systems have to try to do so Bubba there can watch his cat video in mind-blowing 3D and not spill a Cheetos shaking his fist in dissatisfaction at the bandwidth gods.

Quote:
A broadcast delay is the difference in time between the point when live audio and video is encoded and when it is played back, and it is created primarily by the buffers that store digital media data. For example, if the buffers store a total of ten seconds of data, Windows Media Player will show an event occurring ten seconds late. Often a delay of less than twenty seconds is not a problem. However, when timing is important, Windows Media components provide a number of ways that you can minimize broadcast delay without causing a significant loss of image and sound quality.
'preciate the help, though. I may just have to settle on living vicariously through your stream.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:22 AM   #1140
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Is there any way to get the sound sent to the soundcard? Like the music you are playing? All I can chose is the mic and I dont want the mic to be captured. I want the real sound from the game. Thx alot in advance!
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