Boxing with different classes

[Vulcan]

Hey all,
Just got into multiboxing and had a few questions.

1. How would I multibox using different classes? And if I could what are some common classes used together.
2. Are there some addons that would help this process easier?
3. How would I heal as A shaman and also dps as shaman

[Ualaa]

You have a lot of options.

One the easier methods, is to create a "click castsequence" for your DPS and Tank.
So they can mash one button, which in turn calls several other castsequences.
Each does a spell, and then has a bunch of commas (no action on this click).
With enough commas to cover the duration of the dot, or the recast delay of the spell, based on your own spam speed, of the click button.

Click is also a DPS boost, over a castsequence unless all the spells are instant cast.

Every tank can, do a degree, tank with one button spam.
This is hardest with a Death Knight and easiest with a Paladin.
But if you are driving the toon, this shouldn't be a huge issue.
Worst case scenario, you would put your "click" macro on several keybinds, which have your tanking moves as the tank; click any of them, and the DPS all get the click macro.

Jamba is an addon, made by a boxer for boxing. It is pretty much the only addon I will say is almost necessary.

For the most part with healing, you have two options.
Either DPS that can also heal.
Or a dedicated healer.
With DPS that heal, you'll generally go with 3 priests, 3 shaman or 3 druids, who will stop DPS to heal.
With a dedicated healer, you would not have any DPS moves as doing anything on the healer; that way the healer is free to heal without already casting a nuke.

[Vulcan]

i have been reading around and i am also wondering to how you would cast some AoE from mages...there has been some threads on it but i havent seen any go into it with great detail

[Ualaa]

There will be two types of AoE for mages.

Point blank effects, such as Arcane Explosion.
Would just be macro'd.
Press the hotkey and the AoE occurs.
Other effects, like Cone of Cold, functions just the same.



Then you have target effects, such as Blizzard.
Where you get a targeting circle and need to aim where to place it.
For this you will need a form of mouse broadcasting.

I use IS Boxer, and it will physically create an arrow (targeting circle) in each window, which as you move the mouse on the main screen, moves the circles in each of the other windows in real time.

You can choose for everyone on the team to have the mouse broadcast, or place your toons into "Action Target Groups". I have an ATG for "4" and another for "5". Basically, any toon which I want to have mouse broadcasting on with (on key 4) is in the ATG 4 group. In the case of a mixed team, only those in the group receive the mouse broadcast, so others in the team don't accidently click something.

I make good use of the "send next click" option. Basically, I press 4, and have the target ATG 4 selected and the option "send next click" checked. I don't need to enable mouse broadcasting, it just automatically turns on when I press 4. And once I click the target area, it automatically turns off.

Each of the stronger software boxing options offers some form of mouse broadcasting.

[ebony]

pwnboxer has a good mouse broadcasting as well but i find with all mouse broadcasting it kills my system to death (mouse spining) in my setup i nerver use any "mouse AOE" it just got massey with healing/tanking/dps/argo fire mages do really well without any "mouse AOE" with dual spec about i just spec that if its a full off aoe trash, though a lot off 80 dungons the pally kills them on her own and the chain lighting/mutishoot just does what i need.

and muti class owns not just buffs but i think there a lot more fun does take a bit off time to get casting right so noone is missing out spells i allways spend one day in the week before the reset at the training dummes and go on that char and make sure its still casting as it sould, logging in def zones computers can mass up marcos i find a lot

[Ualaa]

It is a toss up.

Fewer classes are easier to macro, which gets you closer to 100% efficiency.

More classes is more things to cover, but you also bring more things to the table.
You can also build a ton of your moves to automatically occur as part of other things.

I've moved from:
1x Prot Pally.
3x Elemental Shaman.
1x Resto/Elemental (dual-spec) Shaman.

To:
1x Prot Pally.
3x Elemental Shaman.
1x Destro Warlock.

The DPS does both DPS and Healing; no dedicated healer on this team anymore.
However, 13% spell power is a major boost.
The warlock is from my lesser geared team; she puts out less then half the DPS of the three shammies, but the teams DPS has gone up.
The Imp is an extra 1330 health across the board, and then there are Health Stones.
Shadowfury is quite nice too.

While not a full mixed team, the diversity here has helped the team a lot.
I'm just starting to take this group into heroics.
The diversity has helped out a lot.



My full mixed team is:
1x Feral Druid
1x Discipline Priest
1x Arcane mage
2x Elemental Shaman (traded the Elem/Resto to this team for the warlock).

In the case of this team, less diversity is helpful.
The warlock buffs are missed, but two sets of totems far outweighs this.
For boxing casters, Discipline is far stronger then Resto, so the shammy becomes pure Elemental despite the dual spec.

Still, we have Priest Fortitude + Spirit, Druid PuppyPaw, Mage AI, and two sets of totems.
Just spamming Holy Nova (it takes forever to run out of mana as Disc) has been sufficient healing so far.

[gybigp]

I'm running a 5 class team; Pally-Priest-Warlock-Hunter-Shaman. Biggest problem so far is setting up a PW Shield/heal macro with modifiers to protect/heal team members as needed. The members are multiple lvls because I've changed the composition a few times; right now 25 (shaman) to 44 (Pally main). Anyone else running something similar? I set up a mouseover macro that works ok but I dont want to be sliding the cursor around the screen if it's possible to ctrl [key], shift [key] etc... to target, PW shield and heal specific toons quickly. I like the multiple class team because I believe each (I may be wrong) can produce bufs that improve the entire team.

[Ualaa]

A repeater region over a Grid+Clique or Healbot or Vuhdo frame is probably the easiest and strongest option.
Decide on a keybind combination for PW: Shield, then mouse over the correct frame and click the frame.
I've used things like mouse scroll wheel up, as the bind for a type of heal.



If you want to go with a keyboard option, possibly try assisting off of the mob you're killing.
#show Power Word: Shield
<Insert Assist Here>
/cast [@targettarget,help] Power Word: Shield

This will assist your active toon (focus, party leader, FTL, etc).
Meaning you're likely to be targeting the hostile mob.
You then cast the PW:S at the target of that hostile, which should be the toon who is getting beat up by that mob.

[Tim]

Ualaa, what keyboard do you use? Does it have programmable (ie, keybindable such as ALT+SHIFT+F9) capabilities?

[Revision]

I recently decided to give up the mix of classes and just replace them all with shamans. The reason being is that warlocks and mages are far harder for me to macro to top their DPS.

I never really like the idea of having all the same class, but after trying a mix of 2 shamans, 2 mages and 2 warlocks togheter and seeing the shamans always being way above the mages and warlocks, I think it's more worth it to just stick to shamans IF that's what you had to begin with.

It surely is possible to macro them fairly good, but since mages rely alot on evocation and mana gems and warlocks on procs, that makes it alot harder.

Just to show the difference, I'll throw my shaman, warlock and mage DPS macros in here.

For healing, I'd agree with Ualaa and say that Grid/Vuhdo/Healbot is far superior over any healing macro that you may have. Mainly because it, atleast for me, makes it quicker to throw out heals to the right person.

My mages current macro:

#showtooltip
/assist Focus
/stopmacro [noexists]
/cast Presence of Mind
/cast Arcane Power
/castsequence [nochanneling:Arcane Missiles] Arcane Blast
/cast [nochanneling:Arcane Missiles] Arcane Missiles

I know [nochanneling] works, but I made this macro months ago and haven't touched it since.

Basically it uses PoM and Arcane Power whenever it's ready and keeps dropping Arcane Blasts until Arcane Missiles proc and it'll use it.

In order to max the mages DPS, you'd have to macro in a ton of Arcane Blasts, followed by a Mana Gem, some more Arcane Blasts, Evocation, then keep using Arcane Blast 1-2 times, spam Arcane Missiles, and keep that up until Evocation is almost ready again.

I haven't found a good way to do so. And I do know that Fire is the new "Arcane" now in 4.3. :P I never liked Fire because it uses alot of procs which makes it even harder then it already is.

For warlock, I use this:

#showtooltip
/assist Focus
/stopmacro [noexists]
/cast Demon Soul
/castsequence reset=12/combat Soul Fire,Immolate,Bane of Doom,Corruption,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate
/cast Conflagrate
/cast Chaos Bolt

This is a little easier to macro, destruction warlocks, for some reason. It utilizes Chaos Bolt whenever it's up, same with Conflagrate and the spells that should be used. Far superior over the mage in my case, in terms of macroing.

Now, for the shaman, which you might be able to tell is alot easier to macro:

#showtooltip
/assist Focus
/stopmacro [noexists]
/cast Elemental Mastery
/cast Lightning Bolt
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock,Lava Burst,Lava Burst
/cast Unleash Elements

This will always cast Flame Shock prior to using Lava Burst, to make sure that LB is a 100% crit, and use Unleash Elements whenever it's up. This may or may not waste your Unleash if it casts Flame Shock shortly after but I really haven't noticed a drop in DPS at all. Will also use Elemental Mastery whenever it's up, and spam Lightning Bolt when nothing else is ready.

The reason why there is 1 Flame Shock and 2 Lava Bursts is that you'll typically be able to throw 2 LBs before the Shock wears off.

For AoE, all classes can use the same macro except for the actual spell. I personally use the following (using Earthquake as an example):

/script SetView(4);SetView(4)
/script CameraZoomOut(20)
/cast Earthquake

This sets your camera exactly the same on all the toons that have the macro, and also zooms them out to the same distance. Makes it easy to drop any AoE spells that you may want to use.

Really, the best way to macro your toons is to test all the spells out and figuring out the best rotation for you. I decided to just read up on what the spec "should" use and test the rotation back and forth until I found the "sweet spot".