Advice for helping with lag

[Bobby79]

I need some help with lag i get in oggrimar thats the only place i get lag but i know that dalaran will be the same if not worse.

what i want to know is how can i improve my system to help this, you need to be aware that i am not loaded so price would be an issue.

My current spec is,

windows 7 32 bit
intel core 2 quad q6600 @ 2.4ghz
4 gb ram
nvidia geforce 8500gt

I think the graphics card is the problem its not very good.

any advice would be very helpfull

[ebony]

as u runnign 32 bit of windows you olny be useing 3.2gb off your ram and theres where the prob will be you need a good 6gb to get stop your probs (in main zones) the cpu is fine i got same one well the 3.5 but mine OC to 3.0gz


Lower your GFcard setting i got the 9800gt and i get mid setting and 20fps

[Ualaa]

A 64-bit version of windows is the first thing I'd think about. That will let you stick in more ram (video and system ram are both limited to a combined 3.2gb at the moment) or use what you have. I generally like 1GB for the operating system, plus 1GB per warcraft client. Granted you don't generally need that much, but it can help in populated areas or especially if you have other things going on while wowing away.

The video card is not especially strong, but warcraft doesn't really push a video card that much. Shadows, weather effects and spell effects are the only graphical elements of the game, which tax the video. Almost everything else is on the CPU and a Q6600 can handle the load of minimal settings quite well.

If you have the cash for a new motherboard, CPU and ram (ddr3), going an i7 920 will be a significant boost. 6GB of ram would be plenty, for five boxing. I went that route about a year back, and it was a huge boost on play.

Without doing the MB/CPU/Ram route, you could also add a cheaper SSD, purely for the gaming folder. A hundred bucks or so, with either the warcraft folder entirely on it, or just use symbolic links with the Data folder on the SSD. That will virtually eliminate stuttering (hard drive seek/access/read lag) and greatly improve performance when first entering the world or whenever you load.

[Team Evil]

It's the RAM. I ran 3 games no lag on an 8800 GTS on XP with 3.5 2.6x2

W7 uses a lot more ram and wow is processor and ram intensive far more than graphics intensive.

For the time being scale back your addons to reduce lag and don't play with things in the background like mozilla and media players. Also use CCleaner or something to clean your startup and make sure you don't have crap running in the background.

[EaTCarbS]

an SSD may help as well.

[Crispin]

Originally Posted by Bobby79

I need some help with lag i get in oggrimar thats the only place i get lag but i know that dalaran will be the same if not worse.

what i want to know is how can i improve my system to help this, you need to be aware that i am not loaded so price would be an issue.

My current spec is,

windows 7 32 bit
intel core 2 quad q6600 @ 2.4ghz
4 gb ram
nvidia geforce 8500gt

I think the graphics card is the problem its not very good.

any advice would be very helpfull

Read here: Upgrade Numbers

I would say, get a GTX 2xx series video card and at least one SSD...

A software raid-0 SSD setup was what ultimately made moving and 5boxing in dalaran, taking 5 sim. flight paths, and swimming doable for me.

-C

[Snowy42]

This is my setup, and I have NO issues running 5x WoW's.

Windows 7 64-bit
Intel Quad Core Q9400 - Overclocked to 3.4Ghz
4gb OEM RAM
Nvidia 9400GSO (not the good one)

I also have a 50gb SSD which I run WoW off, but I was doing fine before I installed this... but it did help a LOT! Will never look back for that purchase.

This is what I recommend:

Upgrade OS from 32 to 64 bit
Possibly spend <$50 on a CPU Cooler and overclock that processor! Q6600's are incredible for overclocking, i've heard of people getting them to 4.0ghz and higher on air cooling!!!
Upgrade to a $100-$150 current GFX card. Maybe an ATI HD5770 or Nvidia GT250, both would be MORE than enough for WoW!

If you can afford it, get yourself an SSD but keep in mind that they are NOT cheap. You can get a few <100gb SSD's for around the $100 mark, but these are NOT good SSD's, they have the same read/write speeds as a normal hard drive! If your going to get one, buy a GOOD one, maybe an OCZ Vertex II. Read/Write speeds of around 285Mb/s which is nearly 3 times the speed of a normal 7200rpm HDD.

I've used a LOT of acronyms there... if you don't know what they are, i'll give you a quick list (ignore this if you already know).
WoW - World of Warcraft (i'd sorta lol if you didn't know this one :P)
OEM - just think of this as 'generic'
RAM - Random Access Memory
SSD - Solid State Drive
OS - Operating System
CPU - Central Processing Unit (your processor)
GFX - Graphics
ATI - This is a video card manufacturer, like Nvidia
OCZ - A Computer component manufacturer
HDD - Hard Disc Drive (Hard Drive)

Hopefully this'll help ya out!!

[Bobby79]

Tnx for quick replys, just to throw something in the mix do ppl agree with snowys upgrade especially the graphics cards because there are alot out there and it can get a bit silly with what to choose.

What difference does upgrading to 64 bit?

[Snowy42]

Originally Posted by Bobby79

What difference does upgrading to 64 bit?

32 bit OS's are restricted to about 3.2-3.5gb of RAM, if you have any more than that 64 bit is so much better. If you ever upgrade your RAM past 4gb, it won't mean a thing unless you have a 64 bit OS.

There was a lot of issues with 64 bit compatibility in the past, but as of now there is basically NOTHING that doesn't run on 64-bit as it's so mainstream!

[Crispin]

Originally Posted by Snowy42

This is my setup, and I have NO issues running 5x WoW's.

Windows 7 64-bit
Intel Quad Core Q9400 - Overclocked to 3.4Ghz
4gb OEM RAM
Nvidia 9400GSO (not the good one)

I also have a 50gb SSD which I run WoW off, but I was doing fine before I installed this... but it did help a LOT! Will never look back for that purchase.

This is what I recommend:

Upgrade OS from 32 to 64 bit
Possibly spend <$50 on a CPU Cooler and overclock that processor! Q6600's are incredible for overclocking, i've heard of people getting them to 4.0ghz and higher on air cooling!!!
Upgrade to a $100-$150 current GFX card. Maybe an ATI HD5770 or Nvidia GT250, both would be MORE than enough for WoW!

If you can afford it, get yourself an SSD but keep in mind that they are NOT cheap. You can get a few <100gb SSD's for around the $100 mark, but these are NOT good SSD's, they have the same read/write speeds as a normal hard drive! If your going to get one, buy a GOOD one, maybe an OCZ Vertex II. Read/Write speeds of around 285Mb/s which is nearly 3 times the speed of a normal 7200rpm HDD.

I've used a LOT of acronyms there... if you don't know what they are, i'll give you a quick list (ignore this if you already know).
WoW - World of Warcraft (i'd sorta lol if you didn't know this one :P)
OEM - just think of this as 'generic'
RAM - Random Access Memory
SSD - Solid State Drive
OS - Operating System
CPU - Central Processing Unit (your processor)
GFX - Graphics
ATI - This is a video card manufacturer, like Nvidia
OCZ - A Computer component manufacturer
HDD - Hard Disc Drive (Hard Drive)

Hopefully this'll help ya out!!

Well, I disagree with Snowy on somethings. . .

Having recently done upgrades of the sort you're talking about, read my post. Linked above.

1> The OS upgrade, is it helpful? Debatable how much it helped me going from Vista 32 -> Windows 7 x64. Cost (175$)

2> Overclock? It's just gear, but why do it unless there is a sound reason too. You said you don't have a ton of cash. I wouldn't do it unless I could drop the cash for new gear tomorrow! (cost ~50$ for a good air cooler)

3> 100$ SSD'd bad?
Drive 1: OCZ Vertex 2

Drive 2: OCZ Vertex

Both of these drives are in the 100-150$ range on NewEgg. I use two of the 100$ drives in a RAID-0 configuration and get ~420 Read / ~315write.

I've used just a solo 100$ OCZ Vertex, and it's a very large improvement.

Cost: 100$ - 300$

4> Video card:

Tom's hardware chart

According to the chart:
GT240 = 86.3 points
Price: 100$

9800GTX+ = 118.7 points
Price: 135$

GTX260 = 178.2 points
Price: 180$

Your card: 8500 GT I found on this chart: Another Tom's chart

. . . in 2008 Q3 it scored: 42.0 (Yes. . . 42.0 FPS)
The 9800 GTX+ scored: 429.7 FPS
The GTX260 scored: 495.2 FPS

My GF had a 9800GTX and it was fine for 10m raids but suffered horribly in 25m raids.

Hope this post combined with Snow's info helps. . .

-C